Ep 20 Divine Worth Podcast: God Wants to Bless You with guest Michaela Esplin

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Welcome to the divine worth podcast, where we are letting go of our self doubt anxiety, fear, and limiting beliefs so that we can step into the divine roles that God has for us. I am your host life coach, Karen Papin, and together we are embracing our divine worth.

Karen Papin: Welcome to the divine worth podcast. Today’s special guest is Michaela Esplin. She is a wife and mom of three. She loves to travel, read, and play the piano. She is the creator of Simply Striving, a brand dedicated to helping faith driven women embrace their divine identity and deepen their trust and confidence in God.

Michaela’s passion is helping women step out of survival mode and into a life filled with faith, confidence, and abundance. So Michaela, thank you so much for coming today. And to begin, I would love to hear like what inspired this passion that you have for helping women to embrace their divine [00:01:00] identity and really step out of that sort of survival mode.

Michaela Esplin: Yeah, so for me a big part of that was recognizing that I was feeling stuck, spiritually, like in a lot of different areas and realizing that there were certain things that were keeping me from, Really moving forward, , reaching my potential that, you know, God wants me to reach and, , recognizing that I had some limiting beliefs that were kind of keeping me stuck and it led to this realization that.

It was an identity thing for me, and that I was chasing, things based on, you know, I was thinking, like, I need to do more. I need to focus more on my actions or what I want and really. It was focusing more on my identity and my beliefs in myself and in God. So it was such a huge moment for me to like, realize that.

And it’s been a really, [00:02:00] really amazing, fun journey. And so that’s kind of where, I’ve been led now to really, really wanting to help women with that as well.

Karen Papin: Awesome. do you mind me asking what were some of those limiting beliefs that like really kept you from embracing that?

Michaela Esplin: Oh, yeah. Okay, so I’ll get in well, we can get into it now.

That’s great. So I have limiting beliefs about myself and a lot of them. You know, when you’re in business, I feel like you are going to have to confront many, many limiting beliefs. It is a. It. It is just a whole mindset game, right? And so, being on this journey in business has really opened my eyes to a lot of limiting beliefs personally for myself, things like, you know, I’m not good enough, a lot of comparison issues, right?

Like comparison coming in and causing a lot of limiting beliefs. but the turning point for me was realizing that some of these limiting beliefs that I had were not. [00:03:00] About myself, they were about God and how he works in my life. And so for instance, one of them was God blesses others more than me, or like he favors.

Others more than me, and so there were just certain ones that, you know, kept coming up and being able to recognize those it was just so mind opening and the journey of working through those overcoming those has just helped me increase my trust and confidence in God. And in myself and in my divine identity,

Karen Papin: is there like a specific moment or maybe a few specific moments that kind of led you to recognizing that, oh, this is a limiting belief that I have, like, I think that God blesses others more than me.

Michaela Esplin: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I’ve almost had that throughout my own entire life, and I feel like there [00:04:00] are certain limiting beliefs that certain personalities, are going to kind of gravitate more towards based on, you know, what we went through in childhood and just, there’s so many different things that can feed into those, but, I’ll share the story of My son, and this is kind of my entire journey with what I call divine confidence, which is really based in our divine identity and our divine worth.

And so my son, my oldest, he’s 12 now, but he was born with a very rare syndrome. We did not know that he had that before he was born. And so it was kind of this, traumatic experience of him being born and then whisking him away. Weeks of testing, and then a couple months after he was born, we got the official diagnosis.

 and this syndrome that he had just led to a lot of. Surgeries that he would need because it was, the syndrome just caused physical, deformities kind of just things to not develop properly. And [00:05:00] so they had to go in and he’s had several surgeries, and I just remember so vividly getting the diagnosis and just being so crushed because.

My number one concern for him at that point was confidence. How do I instill confidence in him? Like, how do I make sure that he’s confident in his worth and in his You know, his divine identity, because I was so worried, like he’s going to be teased, he’s going to be bullied, he will have to have a hearing aid, like just all these different things that, you know, you just worry because it’s not normal, right?

And so anything that’s not normal, yeah, I was just worried that other people would pick up on it and tease him for it. And so my main priority from then on was really that confidence. And. I recognized that I didn’t have that, and [00:06:00] so that made me even more desperate because I’m like, how do I teach this to him and instill this in him when I myself struggle with this, right?

And I distinctly remember being in a Relief Society lesson one week, and somehow we got on the topic of parenting, and I was in a very diverse ward, like lots of different ages, and Demographics and stuff. And I recognized, oh, my goodness, this is my chance. There are so many wise women in here who have, mothered all of these children.

They must know everything. They’re going to have like this sage advice to give me. And so I remember raising my hand and asking, how do you instill confidence in your children? And I will say, I was very, disappointed with the answers because it felt very like intangible, like stuff that I really couldn’t, , plan for and like set a game plan, be like, okay, this is how I’m going to do it.

[00:07:00] These are the steps that I’m going to take. , And so I remember walking away from that lesson, just feeling very discouraged and still not knowing how to do that. So really it was just, I’m going to do the best I can and in the best way that I know how and hope that it’s enough. And fast forward, and he’s nine years old, and in school, and, he comes home one day and he asks my husband and I, he’s like, you know, I realized, I have a hearing aid and there’s just some things that are different about me, like, than my friends at school.

Like, why? And so my husband and I sat him down and we hadn’t kept, his syndrome from him or anything, but we just. We figured that he needed to be maybe a little bit older until we, really have that conversation. And so we sat him down and we told him, well, this is what you were born with.

And this is why you’ve had all these surgeries. And this is why, you know, you have a hearing aid [00:08:00] and he really surprised me because he has such an inquisitive mind, and he’s always so curious, you know, like asking, well, why, why, why? And the first thing that he said after we told him that he said, wow, I am blessed by God.

And, uh, okay. Surprised I even got to this point without crying. So this is good. In that moment, my son taught me what it is to be confident in yourself and in your divine identity because he knew who God was. For him, he knew who God was in his life. At that moment, he wasn’t a God who punishes. He’s not a God who, wants us to fail.

 [00:09:00] He’s a God who’s always blessing us, even in our trials. And my son recognized that. So that was a big thing for me because that was one of my limiting beliefs, right? It was like, God blesses others. Other people are getting these blessings. And I was looking at my, at my trials. Like, I was focused on that and it changed my perspective because, wow, our trials can be blessings, it was a total perspective shift.

So, he taught me that. The second thing he taught me. Was he knew who he was, he recognized that he was special, that he was loved, that God loved him, like he knew who he was, he knew that he had worth, even in his weakness, right? And he wasn’t even perceiving it as a weakness because it’s not, you know, and, and it’s again, it’s that perception.

and then he taught me [00:10:00] that we need to trust in God’s plan and God’s timing because God has a plan for each of us and his timing is perfect. Even when it feels like it’s not and his plan is perfect for all of us. And so my son just taught me so much about our divine identity, divine worth, and this idea of divine confidence in that moment. And that is really, looking back, that was really the turning point, for me and then being able to go on that journey myself. It’s funny because now looking back, I’m like, I was trying to instill that in him and he is the one who taught me about it.

And then, Let me go on my own journey because I was struggling with that.

Karen Papin: Amazing how that happens, just how much we can learn from our kids. And really just, if we open our eyes, the lessons are there. And if we just, Look for them, right? [00:11:00] Yeah. So how have, since that experience, how have you applied those lessons into your life?

Michaela Esplin: So a big thing for me has been, especially like with the limiting beliefs, it really is such a mindset shift.

And that is really how I’ve been applying it is facing these beliefs that I’ve had, and the first step you have to become aware of them, right. You have to really understand What these limiting beliefs are for you. Otherwise, you can’t try to fix them if you’re not aware. So, really sitting with these things and in different situations recognizing, okay, what is the belief here that’s guiding me in these actions, or these behaviors or these thoughts and being honest with yourself about them.

It is okay. And that’s, and that’s what I really want to convey is limiting beliefs about yourself, limiting beliefs about God, they are normal. It does not make you a bad person to have these limiting [00:12:00] beliefs about God, he wants us to recognize them and then work on them and overcome them with the help of our Savior.

Not because he wants us to have a better view of him, but it’s for our benefit, because when we stop allowing those limiting beliefs to impact how we feel about ourselves, how we show up in our lives, the thoughts that we think about ourselves and about others, when we are able to let those go, it allows God to work more in our lives.

And that’s what he wants. He wants to help us, like he wants to give us everything. And yet, when we are so stuck in these limiting beliefs. And clinging so tightly to them. It’s like, we’re putting this wall up, and he’s there. It’s not that he’s limiting himself, but we are the ones limiting him from really, really [00:13:00] working in our lives and helping us.

And so, that’s really, what I’ve been working on are these mindset shifts, the perspective shifts that I was talking about, like my son viewing those things compared to how I was viewing things in my life and really just working on that and recognizing more of God working in my life, looking for evidence of how he works in my life.

And that’s a crucial part of working through these limiting beliefs too, is looking for the evidence to support the true belief, the new belief.

Karen Papin: So, so I love that you’re kind of laying out this process of acknowledging the limiting belief, making yourself aware of it. And then having this, it’s like, okay, well, what is the true belief here that we want to embrace? And then looking for the evidence of that and supporting it and nurturing it and letting it grow, [00:14:00] like the seed of faith, right?

Yes, exactly. Yeah.

Michaela Esplin: So, so there’s a quote that I love. It’s from Joseph Smith. He says, if men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves.

And I just love that quote. He goes on to say. It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God. I want you all to know him and to be familiar with him. We must have a correct idea of his perfections and attributes in admiration for the excellency of his character.

If any man does not know God, he will realize that he has not eternal life, for there can be eternal life on no other principle. Love, love, love these quotes, because I feel like so often in the world when we talk about identity, worth, things like that, they want us to start with self. You know, we need to know who we are first.

And this [00:15:00] shows us, we actually need to know who God is first, because we are created in the image of our heavenly father and our heavenly mother, like, we have to know the characters and the attributes that we are made from right in order to have that confidence and that is where true confidence comes from is in our faith in God and in our belief, in God.

And so that’s the foundation and when we, and that’s where these limiting beliefs really. Come into play as well that I’ve this is the realization that I’ve had is we can’t really know the true character of God if we have these false beliefs about him, right? Like, it’s conflicting. It’s like, we have some correct perceptions, but then there are other things based on our experiences based on traumas that we’ve had based, there’s so many things that play into it.

Even say in whispering to us, these lies, these false beliefs. And [00:16:00] they get in the way of that true knowledge of who God is. And when we can come to a more correct knowledge of who he is, that will then lay the foundation for really knowing who we are and beginning that process of really coming to understand who we are.

And then being able to move forward to becoming who we are meant to be.

Karen Papin: I’ll just keep like nodding and, you know, just keep continuing. But I really do love that because, I remember, like, years ago there was An Ensign article that was on confidence and self worth, and it was by Elder Glenn L.

Pace, and in it he talks about how we have these divine attributes that God has within us because we are his children. And so I love this idea that get to know him [00:17:00] and get to know his and Heavenly Mother’s divine attributes because. We have the capability of being able to build those within us as well.

Michaela Esplin: Exactly.

Karen Papin: That’s so good. In

Michaela Esplin: fact, Christ’s mission when he was on earth was to glorify the father and to bring people to God. that’s like his entire mission is to bring us back, right. Bring us back to God. And so Christ was the perfect example of that. And he Portrayed those attributes.

He had those attributes that people could see God in him. And I just think it’s really cool that we have the opportunity to do the same thing in a way. Obviously not to the. extent to magnitude and, perfection that he was able to do it. But we have that in us where, as we are familiar with these attributes that our heavenly father has, we can then work towards those.

[00:18:00] And the more that we embody those attributes, those characteristics, the more we are able to lead others back to him.

Karen Papin: I love how interconnected it all is. Like when I think of confidence and as I’ve been on this journey with this podcast, learning more about confidence and what that truly means, it’s like, it’s not just about us.

Like it’s not about how we feel about ourselves and whether or not we feel confident. It’s actually so interconnected between God’s love for us and our love for others and serving others. And as we step outside our comfort zones to. share God’s love with others. That is where that confidence is coming into play.

And so it’s just, it’s all interconnected.

Michaela Esplin: Yeah, I love that. And you talk about like stepping out, you know, and, and just doing that. even when we feel scared to, and that’s [00:19:00] what faith is. it’s action, right? And so like faith, hope and charity, there’s a reason they all go together. And I feel like, I want to explore this more, but yeah.

There’s definitely a connection there with the faith, hope, charity, and the confidence. Because even as you were talking about, you know, serving others, stepping out into that having the hope that comes through Christ, that we can change, that we can become better, that we can become more rooted in our confidence in God and our trust in God, I just love how everything is just connected, so perfectly.

But Faith, Hope and Charity definitely have a role to play here.

Karen Papin: I love that you brought that in too. I remember Elder Uchtdorf giving a talk one time and it was on the Three Sisters. I think it might have been focused more on Hope, but the Three Sisters of Hope. Faith, hope, and charity.[00:20:00]

And, I love that analogy that they’re three sisters because they are very much interconnected. and we talk about confidence and confidence is faith. You’re taking faith, stepping outside your comfort zone, even though, cause confidence is a result, like it’s not something that you have before you do it.

Right. And so there’s that faith with the hope that, all things will work out. In a way, that God’s going to be there to magnify your efforts and then there’s this all encompassing love that you need because I, because I feel like when we’re on this self development journey, we can, Get into this place where we look at what we’ve learned and we see that those times that we didn’t apply it.

And then we can get into this shame about how I know better. Right. and yet , that’s not what God wants us to do. He wants us to come from a place of love, [00:21:00] love for ourselves, love for where we are at right now, love for the weaknesses that we have. And kind of going back to what you were talking about earlier.

It’s like, yes, we have those weaknesses, but those weaknesses are there to turn us to the Lord. And I remember on my mission, , we were in the MTC and one of the sisters that I was with talked about Ether 12 27 mm-hmm . Right where he says, I give unto men weakness that they may be humble, and if men humble themselves and come unto me, then I will make their weaknesses become strong.

I remember her talking about that scripture in a way, because I always focus on, okay, because I am weak, the Lord will help me, right? He’s going to help me. But she actually focused in on that first part where the Lord gives us weaknesses so that we may be humble. And [00:22:00] I was like, Oh, I never really thought about that.

It’s like, there’s a purpose to our weaknesses. And. It’s so we can turn to him.

Michaela Esplin: Yeah, there’s always the action behind it, right? Faith cannot exist without action. you have to have that action piece. And when you are looking for that, you’ll see it everywhere. Just like you shared, you know, in that scripture, where it does require us to do something.

It requires us to humble ourselves and, become aware of our weaknesses, right? We have to do the work. Because that is how we grow. God , He’s giving us so many opportunities to grow into the person that we are meant to be and that we are capable of being. , and He loves us where we are always, but He also loves us for who we can become and He wants us to become so much more.

He knows what we’re capable of, but on the other side of that, so [00:23:00] does Satan. Like, he knows what we’re capable of too, and he doesn’t want us to become that person, because the more confident we are in our worth and in God, the greater the impact we have. And I think of Satan’s counterfeit with confidence where.

I, I feel like I see this a lot in the world where they define confidence differently and it’s very much, it’s very much a self centered kind of confidence where, you know, it’s like, okay, now I’m confident and I can do these things and, and there is some truth to that, but I love how you brought up.

You keep bringing up the fact that, we can have charity, we can love others, we can serve others more, the more confident we are, because that is the difference between Satan’s counterfeit confidence and true confidence where we [00:24:00] then, we have that inner confidence. It’s not staying within us, we’re then using it to help others and to, spread God’s love to others as well,

Karen Papin: because it’s not like, because you’re right, Satan’s counterfeit is, is so internal.

It’s like, and then Kim comparison, right? But that’s, that’s the counterfeit of what we’re saying here is it’s actually about love and about how can we lift others up. And it’s not internal, like, yes, you need to believe in yourself, but that belief comes as you take that action and how you have that faith, right.

And take that action. But it’s actually looking out at other people and just focusing on, okay, how can I serve and believing that through God’s help, you can make that difference.

Michaela Esplin: [00:25:00] Yes. And, and yeah, you’re right. The comparison is part of Satan’s counterfeit because you’re still looking out to others, but it’s a very, very different way of looking at them.

Right? It’s on God’s end. The divine confidence is okay. Now look out and see how you can bless the lives of others right and help others Become confident in who they are and who I am and how you know, I want them to grow Versus Satan is okay now look out and keep comparing yourself to others And your lack and you aren’t enough, you aren’t good enough.

So keep trying, right? Keep working, but you’re never going to be good enough. So it’s just us constantly striving for that approval and that love, and we never, we’re never going to get it. It’s never going to be good enough. If that’s what we’re focused on is the comparison.

Karen Papin: That reminds me of an exercise that I do in coaching. It’s called the core [00:26:00] transformation exercise. And it’s like, you take a, an emotion that you’re struggling with and you invite it into your awareness and then ask it, what is it that you want? And then you go deeper and deeper and deeper until you get to this core feeling of love or wholeness.

 And it’s very interesting because those emotions that we might be struggling with or those Negative thought patterns, limiting beliefs, those habits that we might have, like their, their serve a purpose, like there’s a reason why we have them. And so getting down into why, why do we have this and having that awareness, as you mentioned earlier, and getting curious about it, and then understanding that, that I can have that wholeness right now.

Because I have the savior in my life.

Michaela Esplin: Yeah I think that’s so powerful. And what’s so powerful about it is when you have that, and you [00:27:00] have that knowledge and that realization that you can be whole through the savior right now, your thoughts, your beliefs, your actions, and then eventually your results all stem from that.

It’s all based on your identity. Your identity drives everything else. And so I feel like so often we have, in fact, I’ll share one of my favorite words. It’s, it’s a, it’s going to feel a little bit off topic for a second, but I promise it relates. One of my favorite words is prosper. And when you Google the word prosper, the definition that’s going to come up is success, like to succeed.

 and I think it even says. Specifically, like in a financial way, and that’s how I always envisioned prosper even when we read about it, it’s so prevalent that word in the book of Mormon, and we so often link it to the pride cycle that we talk about in the [00:28:00] book of Mormon. When they prosper in the land, it leads to pride.

 It’s like this, it’s part of the pride cycle. And that was the definition that I always thought of, was having. It was it’s what they have, right? They’re prospering. So they have abundance. They have money. They have nice things. They have abundant crops, all these things, right? But when we look at the Latin root of the word prosper, it doesn’t mean that at all.

It actually means to go forward with hope. So, it’s a state of mind. It’s a belief. Like, you are choosing to go forward with hope. And so, I think we so often want to focus on the have, the results, even sometimes before the action, or maybe we put the action first, like, okay, if I do this, I will have this.

But what really needs to go first is the belief, the be, [00:29:00] the identity piece. Because when we have that. And then we choose to have that state of mind and choose to see things from that perspective that will shape everything and the results will come.

Karen Papin: There’s a scripture with Lehi and Sariah, and at this particular point in time, Sariah is struggling. And, she’s totally, she’s like, you’re a visionary man. And then he, he like validates her feelings.

I know I am a visionary man. And then he goes on to say, I have obtained a land of promise and he has not actually obtained that land of promise, but it is as if he has. And that to me is hope, like, it’s not this, Oh yeah, I hope that happens like if he wished. Right. [00:30:00] It’s really like, no, this is going to happen.

Like, I have that hope that it is going to happen. And then with faith, I’m going to take that action and move forward.

Michaela Esplin: Yes. Yes, in fact, hope is another word that I’ve been kind of diving into. I really love languages. Someday I will be fluent in more than one language someday, but I really do love languages.

And so, the word hope, and I can’t remember cause I’ve studied. Different biblical words in Greek, Hebrew and Latin. So I don’t remember which language this comes from, but hope actually means expectation. And so it isn’t just this trivial. You know, like, oh, yeah, I hope I wish right. We almost use it in that kind of term.

Like, oh, I wish that well, I wish that happened. I don’t know, or I wish that will happen for me. So, hope is actually this expectation and when you think [00:31:00] of that word expectation, I expect this is going to happen. There has to be action with that again. It’s the faith. It’s why faith is part of that is because, okay, you have this hope you have this expectation.

Now, you can take those steps. You can now put the action behind it and that’s exactly what we see with Lehi, right? Is he knew that was going to happen for him. He expected it to happen, which implies the faith. He has the faith that it will happen. And now he is acting in a way where he’s choosing, he’s believing, you know, that it will happen.

And so it then impacts his actions. So I love that.

Karen Papin: So with that, what. Is a small and simple action that those listening can take today.

So I am [00:32:00] a huge advocate for writing down your experiences with God. I feel like we are promised that the Holy Ghost will bring things to our remembrance.

But again, going back to God requires us to put forth some effort, right? The Holy Ghost can help us remember things so much easier if we’ve written them down, right? He can bring those things to our remembrance. We are humans. We have very frail minds and memories. Especially as we age, right? Like, I can’t remember anything anymore.

And so if I don’t write it down, I’m probably, forgetting it. And so I think it’s just so important to start writing down and it can be very simple. If you feel like you don’t have any big experiences with God yet, then just challenge yourself Look for evidence of him in your life every day and just write it down and it doesn’t have to be in some fancy notebook [00:33:00] or a journal, it can just be, like on a piece of paper.

It’s okay if it’s not something that you keep forever, but to even get in that practice and it goes back to the perspective and the mindset. Shift, because what you look for, you will find, and in fact, there’s a law about that. And I don’t remember the name of the law, but it’s the one where, you’re shopping for a different kind of car.

And all of a sudden you start seeing them everywhere, right? It’s like, I want this Ford SUV or whatever. And then all of a sudden they’re just appearing everywhere. And you’re like, Whoa, there, you know, I didn’t even know now, but it’s because you’re cognizant of it now. Like you’re looking for it.

It’s on your mind. And so the same thing applies with God, where if you feel like you are not seeing him in your life, if you feel like he is distant, or you have these limiting beliefs, that maybe you feel like he’s punishing you for something, or you feel like he [00:34:00] has removed himself from you for some reason, or that he doesn’t love you as much as somebody else, so he’s showing up for somebody else more than he’s showing up for you, Do that little challenge and just challenge yourself to start looking for evidence because it is there and more often than not, it’s going to be in the form of tender mercies versus miracles, right?

Like, that’s kind of how I differentiate. Tender mercies are maybe a little more small. But they’re just as important. They’re just as impactful for us. And I’ve had miracles in my life and I have them written down and it’s really those day to day tender mercies. It’s those little evidences.

And when we can write those down and write down like the big times that he’s shown up for us, when we go through hard times and we all will, and we will have moments where we have doubts. When we’re not feeling God’s love for us, maybe right in that moment, or we’re not feeling [00:35:00] like he’s there for us.

We can go back and look at those and it’s our own little like small plates kind of, you know, evidence of him working in our personal lives. And it’s just so important because like I said, we forget things so easily. And when we’re in it, when we are, like, in a trial that’s really difficult, and those doubts are coming up, those fears will speak louder than our past experiences with God.

And so it’s so important that we have something we can refer back to to remind us. To remind us of how he has shown up for us and to give us that hope that expectation that he will show up for us again and again and again,

I love that. It can be so powerful. And you’re not saying like, okay, let’s write a whole journal entry [00:36:00] long thing here. It’s like, it’s something that just so powerful. Take a minute. Just a minute. We all have one minute to sit there or stand there even and just write something out. Just take one minute.

And then if you end up writing more, that’s awesome. So I love that advice.

Michaela Esplin: Yeah. I mean, I do have like a journal that I write my more sacred experiences in that I do want to go into more detail and, remember those details and remember. Everything leading up to it, you know, just the entire experience itself.

And those are the ones that I also want to pass on, right. To like my family, but even just keeping a running list, like bullet points, and you don’t even have to like write a complete sentence, just something that will allow you to get in that pattern of looking for it. Because then your brain will continue, and it will look further, and it will be on your mind, and so you will, it might feel hard at first to see those [00:37:00] things, but the more you do it, the more your brain will actually start searching for those things on its own, without you even having to like, Be intentional about it, and so it will get easier, you will find more, and that will just help solidify the fact that you are special to God, you have, infinite worth to him, and he is there for you, and he loves you.

Karen Papin: Thank you so much for giving us that advice. Okay. I’ve got, well, I guess two more questions, but, the next question is what is your favorite scripture on divine worth?

Michaela Esplin: Okay. So I’m going to pull it up because I don’t have it memorized. I’m going to go with Moses one 39. He says for behold, this is my work and my glory to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

I feel like this is telling [00:38:00] us that God’s entire purpose revolves around us as his children. He is invested in our potential. He’s invested in our happiness, even, what is it? Second Nephi 2 25, right? Did I get that right? Adam fell that men might be a men are that they might have joy. Like God wants us to have happiness and joy and abundance.

 He doesn’t want us to suffer through our entire mortal life. He really wants us to thrive and He wants to bring about our eternal potential, our divine potential, and our divine happiness, eternal happiness. And so I just love that scripture that that is his work. That is his glory to help us become who we can be so that we can, like, live happily ever after.

You know, we can live happily forever and ever with our families.

Karen Papin: So good. [00:39:00] So, so good. Okay. How can people connect with you?

Michaela Esplin: So you can find me at simply dot striving on Instagram. And then I also have a website simply striving. co.

Karen Papin: Great. Micaela, thank you so much for this was so fun.

Thank you for coming on.

Michaela Esplin: Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I had so much fun. Thank you.

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